Navigate the Obelisk in Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne HD Remaster. This guide covers puzzles, Moirai Sisters, and finding the treasure.
Inside the Obelisk, a Shinnentai will tell you that it (the Obelisk) is the tallest structure in Tokyo, and the closest to Kagutsuchi. You'll also learn the human medium is at the top floor.
On 15F you will feel a strong presence. Three girls above you appear. The first is identified as the "emotionless girl" and is laughing. "Just like Master Hikawa predicted, the dirty rat has appeared." The second sister, "Arrogant woman" says you are probably here to take back "that woman" but that the three sisters are not as stupid as Ose. The third, "cold-hearted woman" tells you that if you want the woman, you have to go through them, but you'll have to get through the anti-intrusion traps first. The emotionless one says "Kagutsuchi will not wait for you," and they disappear.
On 24F, you'll learn from a Shinentai who they are--the Moirai Sisters. (also known as the Greek Fates)
On 32F, you'll get your first puzzle. There are two blocks, each with symbols on it. The left has one, and the right has three. These stand for phases of the moon. As soon as you touch the light ball, Kagutsuchi will turn New, and you need to change the phase to that of the "answer", in this case, 4/8. Stepping on the block with one symbol advances time by 1 phase, the right by three. If you step on blocks long enough to make Kagutsuchi revolve all the way back to 0/8, the floor will drop from under you and you'll fall to a lower level and have to return to complete the puzzle. This first puzzle is easy enough--step on 3, then on 1.
On 40F you'll learn the central pillar is sending the Magatsuhi it gathers to the underground--as you saw the large amount when you entered.
On 52F you will find your second challenge. There are actually TWO different blocks that can be lowered, an 8-block and a 4 block.
To get past the 4/8 block, step in the following pattern: 3-4-2-1-2. To get past the 8/8-block, step on 1-3-4.
On 60F, you will be presented with a large area with five moving platforms. Only one leads to the exit. The way you're supposed to do it is get one wrong then look down at the pattern to figure out which platform will move where. (whenever there's a left-right path in the wall, the platform will take it) If you're lazy, the "correct" one is the second from the left. (but you won't get the Soma if you go straight there)
On 70F, a Shinnentai says that he can hear a woman screaming from the top of the pillar in the center of the tower...hmm..
On 77F you'll find a fourth save terminal, and a Jakyo Manor right next door. You'll also be presented with two new puzzles.
The solution to the puzzle on the right: 2-1-4-1-4 for 4/8. 1-2-2-3 for 8/8.
The solution to the puzzle on the left: Just keep running back and forth between 0 and the 3 in front of the 4 cube for 4/8. For 8/8, 3-1-3-1 will do the trick.
On 99F there's a heal spot. Right before the passage up is a Shinnentai that will tell you the Treasure of the Obelisk is located below, but nobody has ever gotten it. If you want it take the elevator down. If you don't, go ahead on up the stairs.
Assuming you're going for the treasure, you'll have to deal with another, trickier puzzle.
Once again you will be faced with a "moonlight puzzle." The solutions are 2-3-2-1 for 8/8 and 1-2-1-2-1-2-3 for 4/8.
4/8 leads down all the way to B2F. The south box is a Close trap--don't open it. However, the Far Sight Telescope is down here--an infinite-use Analyze item. You'll definitely want that.
Go back and head up. Keep going up till you reach 114F. There's a save terminal there...you might want to use it. There's a Shinnentai there that mentions that of the three Moirai sisters, Clotho is "birth" and Atrophos is "death." He forgets what Lachesis is, but his statement is important.
The elevator on 118F leads to 128F. Here you'll fight the Moirai Sisters. First, however, you'll have to solve another puzzle.
You'll note that there are three marked blocks: two "4" platforms on the left and right, and one "8" platform in the middle. A Moiai sister is on each of the blocks; Atropos on the left, Lachesis in the middle, and Clotho on the right. If you summon one, you must fight her. The trick here is that you must fight ALL THREE of the sisters within a single lunar rotation, or the floor will disappear and you'll have to do the whole thing over again. Hint: The birth order of the sisters and what they represent is the key.
If you can't figure out, here's the key--birth comes first and death comes last, so you have to fight Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos in that order.
STILL can't figure it out?
If the following was a diagram of the area:
Lachesis
_____V_____
Atropos ->| A | B | C | <- Clotho
|---+---+---|
| D | E | F |
`-----------'The exact path would be:
E-F-C-Fight Clotho.
F-E-F-E-B-Fight Lachesis
A-B-A-Fight Atropos
Each of the individual sisters isn't too hard--after taking a nominal amount of damage they will run. Just don't do anything stupid and you'll probably be OK.
Once you've gotten all three sisters to run away, you can go on to 140F. However, don't immediately rush up to the top of the tower--go around to the rear area of the floor and you can descend to 135F where some goodies await you. (They're all in Magic Boxes though, so you'll probably spend a good deal of time here...)
Up on the 142nd floor, the three Moirai sisters will face you all at once.
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